@selfagency Svelte is awesome. I could probably write a whole blog post about how much I love Svelte. It's similar to VueJS but does a really good job of compiling down to a "minimal" JS frontend.

@nolan awesome. can't wait to give it a go. out of curiosity, why not have a dropdown menu to switch between instances in pinafore instead of burying it under settings? also, what about a merged TL that has all instances and lets you choose which account to write/reply from when tooting, including multiple accts, like buffer?

@selfagency Easier instance switching is on the roadmap. I think you should be able to tap your profile picture to switch between them. https://github.com/nolanlawson/pinafore/issues/11

@kepstin Yep, I think I'm going to make it so you can tap the nav button to get back up to the top. Agreed it needs fixing: https://github.com/nolanlawson/pinafore/issues/21

@ambassador @ElfLord In theory you can run `sapper export` to just output a set of static files. In practice, I need to upgrade to the latest version of Sapper in order to enable this, and plus there is some stuff that just can't work statically without some nginx/apache magic (namely dynamic routes, e.g. /tags/myCoolHashtag).

@nolan @ElfLord Understood.

We have a static web host for artodon/haclyon 😉

Pinafore looks amazing as well. We could see it being a semi-instagram like UI which... kind of our 'killer feature' 😉

(note: we're not asking you to adapt pinafore in any way, just hoping to support the project via a deployment / similar if it makes sense for us)

@ambassador @ElfLord Standalone mobile apps are on my roadmap as a possible future feature: https://github.com/nolanlawson/pinafore#goals-and-non-goals . I do really like that it's "just" a website though. 😊

@nolan @ElfLord I'm actually less concerned about the 'stand alone app' and more about a way to get an instagram like experience 😉

I think I'm going to be deploying a test instance of this shortly to see if it feels like a photo first browser for our instance. (Based on the screen grabs... I think this is darn close to what we've wanted for awhile).

@ambassador
Hey, I'm actually currently working on an instagram-like federated social network called Fontina. I wasn't aware your instance existed until just now, but I would love to see if I could work with y'all to make sure it's great for photographers as well as your average user.

It's still in a very early stage, but I feel it's fairly important to make sure it's welcoming to communities like yours

@nolan @ElfLord Nolan, I make a little add-on for #Firefox to open mastodon on a sidebar. Later today, I will switch it to pinafore because opening mastodon on an iframe causes csp violation depending on the instance. Thanks for the hard work.

@soapdog @nolan @ElfLord Yay!

On a Pixel as FF PWA <3

Where can I start contributing to get a black theme/🌃 mode :D

https://toot.cafe/media/y41lxb9bzrxhZ6_k6gI

@rabimba @soapdog @ElfLord I've opened up some issues around theming; it's been a popular request so far! :) https://github.com/nolanlawson/pinafore/issues/12 https://github.com/nolanlawson/pinafore/issues/32

@jaycie @nolan related question... since the glitchsoc fork has multiple frontend support, could we make this an optional frontend on glitchsoc instances potentially?

@bea @jaycie It's possible, but would require a bit of work first to change how auth is handled. What's supported today is self-hosting, but you'd still have to have the user log in to the instance manually.

@nolan @bea @jaycie Would it be possible to have it 'configurable' for a 'lock' to a specific instance?

So we could deploy it for 'instance.com' and have a login experience similar to the standard UI?

Simple username/password/totp that's wrapped up in pinafore to help with multi-instance confusion.

@kemonine @bea @jaycie Allowing instances to self-host as an alternative frontend where you're automatically signed in is a possible future goal, but right now it's not quite there yet due to having a separate auth system from Mastodon. https://github.com/nolanlawson/pinafore/issues/35

@gaditb @ElfLord lol, I used a boat as the icon because I was thinking of the play, not the apron thing. But yes, I can totally see that. 😉

@nolan @lychee it's all green to me...

@nolan @lychee I re-enabled it after signing on and it's fine now?

@nolan @lychee btw it seems it works with privacy badger in android Firefox.

@nolan @lychee i'm not having a problem with this?

@nolan @lychee maybe ask the Privacy Badger Team directly?

Really love the Mastodon community. Pinafore still has plenty of bugs and missing features, but folks have been super positive in the responses. Makes me want to keep working on it! 😊

@nolan yes please do!
Thanks a ton

@nolan its such a wonderful start, you've done a good job so far and I look forward to it's continued development.

@nolan Mastodon reminds me of when big companies like Twitter and Google still had a developer community. And this time, it doesn't exist at the whims of VCs and advertisers.

@nolan Logout button?

@KinmenRisingProject It's there in the instance settings. :)

@nolan ah, ok, found it. Imho it would be better to put it on the main bar, to be immediately available. Just my 2cents

@nolan wow, just trying this one out, and I must say I am pleased to see how accessible it is to a screen reader! Really well done, Sir!

@marcozehe Awesome, glad to hear! 😊 I did spend some time testing screen readers (mostly VoiceOver on Mac). If you do run into any problems though then please feel free to open an issue: https://github.com/nolanlawson/pinafore/issues

@nolan Yes, will do, thanks! Already found a few keyboard focus transition issues. :) But also saw some instances where keyboard focus was already being handled gracefully. Am really impressed!

@marcozehe Yes, I try my best to maintain keyboard focus across multiple timelines. Curious to know where it loses it though. :)

@nolan See https://github.com/nolanlawson/pinafore/issues/42. There seems to be a difference when using VoiceOver's Activate command versus using Space to activate the Reply button. Interesting... Just noticing this now as I reply.

@nolan is there anyone working on a photo/art (ie Instagram-like) specific UI?

@sivy @nolan o/

@sivy not a whole lot of progress yet as I still have to do class work, but working on it nonetheless :)

@qonnyr high-5

@nolan #pinafore is beautiful!

@nolan and thank you to you for creating such a great web alternative for Mastodon. 👏👍

@nolan @lychee PB determines "trackers" heuristically and by client-side observation, which is why you're getting a lot of "works for me!" replies. (They haven't seen that request from different domains.) A non-trivial workaround is to post a compliant Do Not Track policy (but that might be per instance, so... non-trivial) https://www.eff.org/dnt-policy

@xor @lychee Thanks, will do!

@nolan @lychee It was enough, I think, to "greenlist" my instance when it appeared as a third-party origin in Privacy Badger. No need to disable Privacy Badger overall.

I've reported this to them, and I'm probably not alone. :-P

@varx @lychee Thanks, appreciate it! :)

@loke @ElfLord Yep it does have a light theme. :) https://pinafore.social

@nolan @ElfLord I'm trying it now. I like it a lot. Quite the relief to be able to use Mastodon on the web without going blind. :-)

I wish I had your webdesign skills. Then Potato would have a much nicer UI and possible be generally usable for anyone who is not a developer.

@melunaka @ElfLord Yep I could imagine making the compose box a bit more compact. E.g. you tap it, it expands. These are reasonable feature requests. 😊

@nolan @ElfLord Oops, seems that changing current instance and then refreshing a toot opened in another tab doesn’t work. I’m not sure that’s easy to fix (or doable at all), because I never saw a client doing it right.

@melunaka @ElfLord Yeah unfortunately I don't think there's an easy way I can support this. When you switch instances, all the status/account IDs change (e.g. account #1 on one instance is different from account #1 on another instance).

@nolan @ElfLord Well you could probably try to find a toot posted from the the same user (same @) at the exact same time but that sounds like a pain to do.

@tofeo @ElfLord I use malfunctioning.technology occasionally for ad-hoc testing, but the Pinafore test suite actually runs its own local Mastodon server with pre-populated data. :)

@miwilc I chose not to implement swiping for now because I've found it's a bit wonky in some browsers. E.g. in mobile Firefox, sometimes a "scroll down" gesture is interpreted as a "swipe" gesture, which can be frustrating. I'll open an issue, though: https://github.com/nolanlawson/pinafore/issues/38

@tbaldauf Oof, I had not tested in the latest iOS 11.3. Opened an issue: https://github.com/nolanlawson/pinafore/issues/45

@nolan @ElfLord that said, lack of GS support is kind of a deal-breaker for me. is that on the roadmap?

@sonya @nolan @ElfLord I think someone mentioned that they are working on making GS talk with ActivityPub.

@maloki @ElfLord @nolan @sonya that's for server-server comms afaik? either gnusoc would have to add support for mastodon's REST api or pinafore would have to add support for whatever gnusoc's client api looks like

@chr @sonya @nolan @ElfLord @maloki +1

@chr @sonya @nolan @ElfLord ahh

@gannet It's not supported yet, sorry about that: https://github.com/nolanlawson/pinafore/issues/6

In the meantime you can copy a permalink to the toot/user (permalinks have a little icon of a square with an arrow coming out of them), and report/block in the main Mastodon web UI.

@nolan thanks, much appreciated.

@wrenpile Unfortunately no, you have to copy the permalink, switch to the other instance, and paste it in to the search. I'd love to add a shortcut for this though (I believe some native clients already have this).

@nolan Ok, I’ll be paying attention to this project for sure.

Thanks for everything you do!

@nick Svelte is awesome. Can't say enough good things about it. My favorite part is actually the programming model, which is similar to VueJS.

@nolan nice!

@ti Yes, you can log in to multiple instances and then switch between them. :)

@nolan Is... there a switch button? How do I do this fabulous life-changing thing? 😃

@ti Right now it's in the instance settings, but in the future it'll probably be on the home timeline for easier access. :)

@nolan never mind, I found it!